diff --git a/DebugVisualizerExtension.slnx b/DebugVisualizerExtension.slnx
index e2c4a1d..c78d95b 100644
--- a/DebugVisualizerExtension.slnx
+++ b/DebugVisualizerExtension.slnx
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
     <Project Path="TestServer/TestServer.csproj" Id="c81154ef-d854-4f1e-9d14-2cf674885291" />
     <Project Path="Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.csproj" />
   </Folder>
+  <Project Path="../Num.Roto.Visualization/Math/Num.Roto.Visualization.Math.csproj" />
   <Project Path="NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/NrxDebugVisualizer.csproj">
     <Deploy />
   </Project>
diff --git a/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/ExtensionEntrypoint.cs b/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/ExtensionEntrypoint.cs
index 9313538..83eb5e5 100644
--- a/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/ExtensionEntrypoint.cs
+++ b/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/ExtensionEntrypoint.cs
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ namespace NrxDebugVisualizer
         {
             Metadata = new(
                     id: "Vector3Visualizer.3c0400c3-acec-4b09-b561-c11fac7b10a7",
-                    version: this.ExtensionAssemblyVersion,
+                    version: ExtensionAssemblyVersion,
                     publisherName: "Nrx Visualizer",
                     displayName: "Vector3Visualizer",
                     description: "Visualizer for MailAdress"),
diff --git a/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/NrxDebugVisualizer.csproj b/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/NrxDebugVisualizer.csproj
index 8cf7a50..b1e6638 100644
--- a/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/NrxDebugVisualizer.csproj
+++ b/NrxDebuggerVisualizerProvider/NrxDebugVisualizer.csproj
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
 		<Content Include="$(MSBuildThisFileDirectory)..\bin\$(Configuration)\net8.0-windows8.0\MessagePack.dll" Link="netstandard2.0\MessagePack.dll" CopyToOutputDirectory="PreserveNewest" />
 		<Content Include="$(MSBuildThisFileDirectory)..\bin\$(Configuration)\net8.0-windows8.0\MessagePack.Annotations.dll" Link="netstandard2.0\MessagePack.Annotations.dll" CopyToOutputDirectory="PreserveNewest" />
 		<Content Include="$(MSBuildThisFileDirectory)..\bin\$(Configuration)\net8.0-windows8.0\CommunityToolkit.Mvvm.dll" Link="netstandard2.0\CommunityToolkit.Mvvm.dll" CopyToOutputDirectory="PreserveNewest" />
-	</ItemGroup>
+		</ItemGroup>
 	<ItemGroup>
 	  <EmbeddedResource Include="Vector3VisualizerUserControl.xaml" />
 	</ItemGroup>
diff --git a/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/NrxVisualizerObjectSource.cs b/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/NrxVisualizerObjectSource.cs
index 46654aa..c9dde1a 100644
--- a/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/NrxVisualizerObjectSource.cs
+++ b/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/NrxVisualizerObjectSource.cs
@@ -1,19 +1,19 @@
 using Microsoft.VisualStudio.DebuggerVisualizers;
 using System;
-using System.Collections;
 using System.Collections.Generic;
 using System.ComponentModel;
 using System.Diagnostics;
 using System.IO;
 using System.Linq;
 using System.Numerics;
-namespace NrxVisualizerObjectSource;
+using Frame = System.ValueTuple<System.Numerics.Vector3, System.Numerics.Quaternion, float>;
 
+namespace NrxVisualizerObjectSource;
 public class NrxVisualizerObjectSource : VisualizerObjectSource
 {
     public NrxVisualizerObjectSource()
     {
-        Debug.WriteLine("new Vector3ObjectSource");
+        Debug.WriteLine($"new {nameof(NrxVisualizerObjectSource)}");
     }
     public override void GetData(object target, Stream outgoingData)
     {
@@ -23,42 +23,73 @@ public class NrxVisualizerObjectSource : VisualizerObjectSource
         switch (fullname)
         {
             case "System.Numerics.Vector3":
+                visualizerModel.Point = (Vector3)target;
                 visualizerModel.Content = target.ToString();
                 break;
             case "System.Numerics.Quaternion":
+                visualizerModel.Orientation = (Quaternion)target;
                 visualizerModel.Content = target.ToString();
                 break;
             case "Num.Roto.Visualization.Math.Geometry.Frame":
-                var tupleType = typeof(ValueTuple<Vector3,Quaternion,float>);
-                var tuple = (ValueTuple<Vector3, Quaternion, float>)TypeDescriptor.GetConverter(target).ConvertTo(target, tupleType);
-                visualizerModel.Content = tuple.ToString();
-                //visualizerModel.Content = (string)TypeDescriptor.GetConverter(target).ConvertTo(target, typeof(string));
+                 var frame = (Frame)TypeDescriptor.GetConverter(target).ConvertTo(target, VisualizerModel.FrameType);
+                visualizerModel.Frame = frame;
+                visualizerModel.Content = frame.ToString();
                 break;
         }
-        if(target is IEnumerable<object> enumerable)
+        if(target is IEnumerable<Vector3> enumerableVector3)
         {
-            Trace.WriteLine($"enumerable is not null =  {enumerable is not null}");
-            if (enumerable is not null)
+            Trace.WriteLine($"enumerable type is {typeof(Vector3)}");
+            if (enumerableVector3 is not null)
             {
                 List<string> stringList = [];
-                foreach (var item in enumerable)
+                List<Vector3> pointList = [];
+                foreach (var item in enumerableVector3)
                 {
+                    pointList.Add(item);
                     stringList.Add(TypeDescriptor.GetConverter(item).ConvertToString(item));
                 }
+                visualizerModel.PointArray = [.. pointList];
                 visualizerModel.Content = string.Join(Environment.NewLine, stringList);
             }
         }
+        else if (target is IEnumerable<object> enumerable)
+        {
+            var objectType = enumerable.First().GetType().FullName;
+            Trace.WriteLine($"IEnumerable<object> objectType is {objectType}");
+            switch (objectType)
+            {
+                 case "Num.Roto.Visualization.Math.Geometry.Frame":
+                    {
+                        List<Frame> frameList = [];
+                        foreach (var item in enumerable)
+                        {
+                            var frame = (Frame)TypeDescriptor.GetConverter(item).ConvertTo(item, VisualizerModel.FrameType);
+                            frameList.Add(frame);
+
+                        }
+                        visualizerModel.FrameArray = [.. frameList];
+                        visualizerModel.Content = string.Join(Environment.NewLine, frameList);
+                        Trace.WriteLine($"I visualizerModel.Content is {visualizerModel.Content}");
+                        break;
+                    }
+                default:
+                    visualizerModel.Content = $"unsupported enumerable of {objectType}";
+                    break;
+            }
+        }
         Trace.WriteLine($"visualizerModel.Content =  {visualizerModel.Content}");
         SerializeAsJson(outgoingData, visualizerModel);
     }
     public override object CreateReplacementObject(object target, Stream incomingData)
     {
-        Debug.WriteLine("CreateReplacementObject: objectType is: " + target.GetType().FullName);
-        return base.CreateReplacementObject(target, incomingData);
+        throw new NotImplementedException();
+        //Debug.WriteLine("CreateReplacementObject: objectType is: " + target.GetType().FullName);
+        //return base.CreateReplacementObject(target, incomingData);
     }
     public override void TransferData(object target, Stream incomingData, Stream outgoingData)
     {
-        Debug.WriteLine("TransferData: objectType is: " + target.GetType().FullName);
-        base.TransferData(target, incomingData, outgoingData);
+        throw new NotImplementedException();
+        //Debug.WriteLine("TransferData: objectType is: " + target.GetType().FullName);
+        //base.TransferData(target, incomingData, outgoingData);
     }
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/VisualizerModel.cs b/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/VisualizerModel.cs
index 494d318..9c72b3f 100644
--- a/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/VisualizerModel.cs
+++ b/NrxVisualizerObjectSource/VisualizerModel.cs
@@ -1,11 +1,29 @@
-using System.Numerics;
+using System;
+using System.Numerics;
 using System.Runtime.Serialization;
 namespace NrxVisualizerObjectSource;
-
+using Frame = ValueTuple<Vector3, Quaternion, float>;   
 [DataContract]
 public class VisualizerModel
 {
+    public static Type FrameType => typeof(Frame);
+
     [DataMember]
     public string? Content { get; set; }
+   
+    [DataMember]
+    public Vector3? Point { get; set; }
+
+    [DataMember]
+    public Quaternion? Orientation { get; set; }
+
+    [DataMember]
+    public Vector3[]? PointArray { get; set; }
+  
+    [DataMember]
+    public Frame? Frame { get; set; }
+
+    [DataMember]
+    public Frame[]? FrameArray { get; set; }
 }
 
diff --git a/Vector3VisualizerTest/Program.cs b/Vector3VisualizerTest/Program.cs
index 4adc770..74f0566 100644
--- a/Vector3VisualizerTest/Program.cs
+++ b/Vector3VisualizerTest/Program.cs
@@ -1,12 +1,21 @@
 
 using System.Numerics;
+using Num.Roto.Visualization.Math.Geometry;
 
-var a  = new Vector3(1,2,3);
-var typeName = a.GetType().AssemblyQualifiedName;
+#region points
+var point0  = new Vector3(1,2,3);
+var point1 = new Vector3(5, 6, 7);
+Vector3[] pointArray = [point0, point1];
+List<Vector3> pointList = [.. pointArray];
+#endregion
 
-var b = new Vector3(5, 6, 7);
-Vector3[] v3Array = [a, b];
-List<Vector3> v3List = [.. v3Array];
+#region frames
 
-var quaternion = new Quaternion(1,2,3,4);
+var orientation =  Quaternion.CreateFromAxisAngle(Vector3.UnitZ,1);
+var frame = new Frame(point0,1, orientation);
+Frame[] frameArray  = [frame, frame with { Translation = point1}];
+var frameList = frameArray.ToList();
+#endregion 
+
+//var typeName = point0.GetType().AssemblyQualifiedName;
 return;
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.csproj b/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.csproj
index 2150e37..45abf08 100644
--- a/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.csproj
+++ b/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.csproj
@@ -2,9 +2,13 @@
 
   <PropertyGroup>
     <OutputType>Exe</OutputType>
-    <TargetFramework>net8.0</TargetFramework>
+    <TargetFramework>net10.0</TargetFramework>
     <ImplicitUsings>enable</ImplicitUsings>
     <Nullable>enable</Nullable>
   </PropertyGroup>
 
+  <ItemGroup>
+    <ProjectReference Include="..\..\Num.Roto.Visualization\Math\Num.Roto.Visualization.Math.csproj" />
+  </ItemGroup>
+
 </Project>
diff --git a/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.slnx b/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.slnx
index 4a0b9ac..24f0f0a 100644
--- a/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.slnx
+++ b/Vector3VisualizerTest/Vector3VisualizerTest.slnx
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 <Solution>
+  <Project Path="../../Num.Roto.Visualization/Math/Num.Roto.Visualization.Math.csproj" />
   <Project Path="Vector3VisualizerTest.csproj" />
 </Solution>